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Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White
2003-09-15 16:58:25 UTC
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Dafydd Iwan, Cynog Dafis, Ieuan Wyn Jones, Rhodri Glyn Thomas???? Are those
names real or were they made up using some kind of bizarre anagram program?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3111166.stm
Ieuan and Iwan for Plaid
Ieuan Wyn Jones has pulled off a remarkable comeback by becoming the
party's leader in the
Welsh assembly, while folk singer Dafydd Iwan has been elected president.
Party vice-president Mr Iwan beat Cynog Dafis for the presidency by 2,980
votes 2,125.
He will work with Mr Jones, who has made a dramatic return only four
months after
resigning the presidency following Plaid's poor performance in the
assembly election.
Mr Jones used to perform the role of both president and group leader, but
the role was
split after he stepped down.
Mr Jones, the assembly member for Ynys Mon, narrowly beat Helen Mary Jones
by 71 votes.
He won 2603 votes, against Helen Mary Jones' 2532.
A third candidate, Carmarthen East and Dinefwr AM Rhodri Glyn Thomas,
polled 1,014 in the
first round of votes, which were then transferred to the other candidates
on the basis of
the voters' second preferences.
The search for candidates to fill the top jobs in Plaid Cymru began when
Ieuan Wyn Jones
stepped down in May.
Plaid had been reduced from 17 to 12 seats in the assembly, and Mr Jones
quit because he
said he could not continue without the support of the majority of his AMs.
Shortly afterwards, former AM and MP Cynog Dafis decided to stand for the
presidency, as
did the party vice-president and folk singer Dafydd Iwan.
In a shock comeback, Ieuan Wyn Jones decided to stand for the leadership
of the party in
the Welsh assembly, but faced competition from Assembly Members Helen Mary
Jones and
Rhodri Glyn Thomas.
According to the party's constitution, there can only be a separate leader
in the assembly
if the party president comes from outside the assembly.
But as the only candidates to have declared themselves for the presidency
were from
outside the assembly - the two roles were then split.
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Celtic King
2003-09-15 22:20:16 UTC
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Post by Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White
Dafydd Iwan, Cynog Dafis, Ieuan Wyn Jones, Rhodri Glyn Thomas???? Are those
names real or were they made up using some kind of bizarre anagram program?
No dear child they are names from the native language of Britain,as
opposed to English which is a German sub dialect of course.
I assume you are English yorself ,and as such easily upset by foreign
sounding subjects,and so I forgive you your pig ignorance,on this
occasion.
Sion
2003-09-18 01:51:24 UTC
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Dafydd Iwan, Cynog Dafis, Ieuan Wyn Jones, Rhodri Glyn Thomas???? Are those
names real or were they made up using some kind of bizarre anagram program?
Put it this way,

Tony Blair derives from Anthony Blair and Anthony is of Egyptian origin.
Blair derives from Blare and that means to sound loud or Harsh. In a
nutshell we have a Prime Minister who is a loud Egyptian,i.e very British in
one sense and yet very foreign as well.

Dafydd Iwan derives from Dafydd Iwan Jones and "Dafydd" is a translation or
equivalent of "David"

Cynnog Dafis had his surname altered from Davies to Dafis and Cynnog is a
translation of believe it or not, "Enemy" or "Debtor". So "Debtor Davies"
must be enjoying an overdraft facility? or perhaps anyone who's a "Dafis"
instead of a "Davies" must be an "Enemy"? or otherwise overdrawn.

Ieuan Wyn Jones is what you see and always was for that matter. A Solicitor
who wished he was practising Law instead of practising increasing his flow
of urine against the wind.

And Rhodri Glyn Thomas is I suppose a S.Wales hopeful. Anyway, at least the
poor chap didn't change his name.

It is interesting though, what lengths people are willing to endure to
contradict what even their own parents designated to them as their lifelong
identity to the World. However patriotic they feel about their "chosen"
natives from a certain point in life, it appears they have little respect
from thereon, in continuing to identify themselves under the name provided
to them by even their own parents.

It's referred to as "playing to the appropriate audience at the appropriate
time" and for personal gain.

Many have done this over several decades and they will continue to do so.
You've only to look at the Aerosol brigade who daub the Colonists out from
that insignificant CYMUNED organisation. I mean, look at one of their
leaders, Mr Seimon Glyn. Take a trip to Kew Gardens and he translates the
same to Simon Glynne Hughes and you will also discover no significance to
Wales

In the bone, I suppose we are pretty damn gullible at the end of the day.

On the Plaid Cymru Presidency and Assembly "Group" leader note, I must
congratulate the party for making the right decision. It had to be someone
with more charisma than Helen Mary Jones and Cynnog Dafis. Shame Helen's
conspiracy to oust Ieuan didn't quite gather sufficient support. Well done
Plaid! I would predict an increase in support provided that Dafydd Iwan
Jones is the one facing the media. Time for these two to gag the lose
canons, adopt some discipline and nominate who can and can not speak about
certain topics.
Celtic King
2003-09-19 22:26:24 UTC
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Cynnog Dafis had his surname altered from Davies to Dafis and Cynnog is a
translation of believe it or not, "Enemy" or "Debtor". So "Debtor Davies"
must be enjoying an overdraft facility? or perhaps anyone who's a "Dafis"
instead of a "Davies" must be an "Enemy"? or otherwise overdrawn.
No it isn't....i quote from Macbains Dictionary:-
... Irish cuindeog, Welsh cunnog, cynnog; cf. Latin congius, a quart.
Sion
2003-09-21 14:20:35 UTC
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Cynnog Dafis had his surname altered from Davies to Dafis and Cynnog is a
translation of believe it or not, "Enemy" or "Debtor". So "Debtor Davies"
must be enjoying an overdraft facility? or perhaps anyone who's a "Dafis"
instead of a "Davies" must be an "Enemy"? or otherwise overdrawn.
No it isn't....i quote from Macbains Dictionary:-
... Irish cuindeog, Welsh cunnog, cynnog; cf. Latin congius, a quart.
And the "Geiriadur Mawr" in a direct translation states - Debtor, Enemy.

Clearly they differ.
Celtic King
2003-09-21 22:51:37 UTC
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Cynnog Dafis had his surname altered from Davies to Dafis and Cynnog is
a
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translation of believe it or not, "Enemy" or "Debtor". So "Debtor
Davies"
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must be enjoying an overdraft facility? or perhaps anyone who's a
"Dafis"
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Post by Sion
instead of a "Davies" must be an "Enemy"? or otherwise overdrawn.
No it isn't....i quote from Macbains Dictionary:-
... Irish cuindeog, Welsh cunnog, cynnog; cf. Latin congius, a quart.
And the "Geiriadur Mawr" in a direct translation states - Debtor, Enemy.
Clearly they differ.
Well we'll just have to compromise,perhaps the original bearer of the
name owed someone a quart?

I understand the name Blair originally meant "lying slimy git".

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